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What did Vader know? Was Tarkin his superior?

What is your name on theforce.net boards?I've been back there recently.edit: topic name changeFireside Flying Pigs & Pie Chat

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Bah. I post at multiple boards now, one more won't detract.

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Re: What did Vader know? Was Tarkin his superior?

I, for one, do believe that Vader was under Tarkin's control. Tarkin is the type of guy the Emperor likes to keep in charge of his minions: self interested, intelligent, ruthless, and probably owing...

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"and probably owing all of his advancement and standing to Palpatine himself"It was exactly that. The doctrine of "rule by fear" was Tarkin's, and was carried on, even after his death. Here's what I...

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Quote:I'd say Supreme Commander is more likely than not.I'm talking Lucas, non-EU only. Strictly movie analysis. Quote:I think Vader was extending courtesy to Tarkin because the Emperor asked him...

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...what would happen if he threw away the lightsaber and was being killed by Palpatine? I was about to agree with you, Bast, and say "good point" - but then I realized something. Luke had just beaten...

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"I'm talking Lucas, non-EU only. Strictly movie analysis. "Very well, I'd call Vader's relationship to Tarkin something akin to the King Palpatine I of Coruscant giving command of his new battleship...

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I disagree entirely, Bast. I never go for the "loyalty to Palpatine" thing. I really think most bad guys are in it for themselves (only by associating they know they can increase their power), and...

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Re: What did Vader know? Was Tarkin his superior?

"I never go for the "loyalty to Palpatine" thing."I base my assumption on Anakin's "Senator Palpatine is a great man" in Episode II. If we were going strictly on classic trilogy info, I'd agree with...

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Quote:Very well, I'd call Vader's relationship to Tarkin something akin to the King Palpatine I of Coruscant giving command of his new battleship to the Admiral-Earl of Tarkin, but letting the Duke of...

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Bast, I think Anakin says "I think the Chancellor's a good man." And why? We find out later. Palpatine feeds Anakin's ego and resentment by sympathizing about his lack of assignments, and telling him...

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"What it means: The responsibility is Tarkin's, not Vader's."Actually, I more or less agree with you there. It's Tarkin's battle station, and the first real test of the Tarkin Doctrine."What it means:...

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Quote:I think Vader has no real rank, other than "Emperor's apprentice".Exactly. Which means that, while Vader can go around and give orders in the name of the Emperor, he technically can't do...

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"when someone else close (or closer) to the Emperor"None were closer to the Emperor than Sate Pestage, after him, Lord Vader was basically it. Following Vader were his Hands and Dark Side adepts, and...

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Who's Sate Pestage? Quote:A General (Tagge) and an Admiral (Motti) are hardly enlisted ranks.Yes, but they're hardly Grand Moffs and Lords; ie, they're lower in rank. Quote:He DID do it to Vader. That...

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It's frustrating when EU authors try to explain things in the movies, and do it less convincingly than I think I could do it myself. Fireside Flying Pigs & Pie Chat

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"I'm taking an awful risk"Am I the only one who though Tarkin was referring to the risk he was taking by allowing1. the Death star plans, aboard R2and2. Princess Leia, a rebel officialTo escape...

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Re: What did Vader know? Was Tarkin his superior?

Obviously not - see K's post above.Fine, not "they're my ships" but "this is my plan and you're screwing with it."Despite his "moment of victory" comment, he obviously did want those plans back, and...

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"The responsibility is Tarkin's, not Vader's."Actually, I agreed with that. The Death Star was Tarkin's to command, and if he allowed the plans to escape and the Death Star to be lost, then he'd be...

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...within the precepts of the new order. nekrotic lullabies while I sleepFireside Karash Chat Inc.

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Re: What did Vader know? Was Tarkin his superior?

If pushing the New Order wasn't his #1 priority, then he wouldn't be in that job. He didn't stay a governor or a moff for very long.

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